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September 15, 2010

The Southampton Exodus

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Written by: Nick Statt

By Nick Statt

Lauterbur Hall towers over West Drive like a Manhattan skyscraper in a city of shacks. Its seamless design, sleek blue-white color scheme, and intricate walkways surrounding the base give it the look of hotel. It’s eco-friendly, with natural lighting and energy-efficient features, and provides a remarkably lavish interior. But to some of the Southampton students that were forced onto the campus this year, nothing here at Stony Brook’s main campus is worthy of being called a home.

“We’re not the kind of people that need to live in the ‘Marriott’,” says Juliann Navarra, now in her junior year. She stands on the edge of the bench fixed outside the front door of Lauterbur with a navy blue Southampton sweatshirt on. “Every time I say I’m in the ‘new Kelly’ building, people get angry and don’t want to speak to me anymore,” she adds. “But I didn’t choose this…I didn’t take your spot.”

Navarra’s close friend, Chelsea Holmes, is quick to add that the disrespectful attitudes run surprisingly deep, even dropping to the level of name-calling. “Dirty backpacking hippies was actually the term,” says Holmes, a sophomore sustainability major. She points out to the road and says cars pull up alongside the building and people stick their heads out to yell insults. A few nights earlier, Holmes says she woke up to three bags of garbage outside her suites’ door.

To SBU’s mainstays, living in Lauterbur and Yang is apparently the same as having a permanent target on your back. The Southampton students were given first priority for housing and naturally, a majority of them chose the brand new buildings to help ease the pain of losing their entire campus and stay close to one another. Housing was one of the few points of condolence ushered by President Stanley when the announcement was made last April, but many main campus students feel betrayed for having to suffer through the noise and sight of constant two-year construction with no benefit.

But when looked at in perspective, it becomes easy to see that while dorm choice may be a large concern to the main campus’ student body, it is far from the top of the Southampton transfers’ list of priorities. “If you’re going to sit there and talk about how you have been inconvenienced, then that’s just the biggest joke I’ve ever heard,” says Holmes with an energy verging on explosive. “This is the least they could do.”

Holmes and Navarra stand at the edge of Lauterbur with a handful of their friends, almost all Southampton transfers. The scene is far from light – the constant hum of construction, the dozens upon dozens of orange construction fences all up and down the road, and the grey and empty landscape of a typical Stony Brook weekend blanketing everything in sight. They find it hard to believe that their environmentally focused education has to continue here instead of in the lush, secluded campus 40 miles to the east.

“How am I suppose to be a sustainability major in a concrete jungle?” asks Holmes. No one has an answer.

Believe it or not, the fact that Holmes even had a major to return to this fall can be considered a lucky situation. “My major, sustainable business, didn’t even transfer over.  I just wasted money, a lot of us did,” says Navarra.  Right now, she’s technically undeclared.

To the Southampton students, their environment was their world. The campus wasn’t just their home. It was the embodiment of their education, their new life, and their goals and aspirations.

“That campus was sustainability,” says Holmes. Off to the side of the group, Amanda Sylvester, 20, a junior environmental studies major who dons the same Southampton sweatshirt as Navarra, breaks her spell of silence, “We were living what we were being taught.”

Sylvester and the group start listing off the countless measures the school took to set a strong example for environmental sustainability and reinforce their flagship curriculum. Clara Perez, a sophomore marine science major, worked in the dining hall and recites a number of ways the campus cut back, from holding off on dish washing to conserve water and the use of fully biodegradable, and edible, silverware.

“I knew the second I walked onto that campus that this is it…the most secure thing in my life – my college education,” says Navarra. “It is something that I’m really and honestly passionate about and it was ripped out from under me without even a forewarning.”

“The major is a different way of life. The only way that things can get better is if people change the way they live,” comments Holmes on the whole ideology behind environmental sustainability. “That’s how it was out there. We were living the new lifestyle that everyone should be living.” Each and every person standing in the group, which is now growing into a bursting semi-circle of Lauterbur residents, expresses the same solitary fact – they chose Southampton over Stony Brook’s main campus for a deliberate reason.

“Here was the last place I wanted to be,” says Navarra.  Her outlook, marked distinctly by the fact that she is the only one in the group to have had her major completely eliminated upon shifting campuses, is a complex mix of cynicism, sarcasm, and passionate resilience. “I came anyway; there is still my education.”

Two weeks into the first semester can feel like an eternity to even the most able of seniors. To the Southampton students, it’s not just a shift from a summer lifestyle to a school one, with classes, early-mornings, and the added responsibilities of living on your own. To them, all the negativity surrounding a whole new environment is doubled and magnified to an extreme.

With an inescapable label and the feeling of betrayal under their belts, it’s as if Stony Brook waged a civil war, forcing the prisoners to assimilate into and be consumed by the enemy.  The Southampton students fought for their campus, for their lifestyle, and they lost. There was apparently never time, nor money, for a battle.

“Do you know how much it sucks to be fighting so hard for something you care about so much and your enemy is the president of your university?” asks Holmes. Her questions are razor sharp, honed from countless hours spent protesting and fighting the decision that was set in stone only days after it was publicly released to the student body. “…And then you are forced to come here.”

Sylvester somberly nods her head, “I’ve lost all respect for the administration, and any kind of trust.”

The September 4 ruling from judge Paul J. Baisley Jr., which deemed the Administration’s closing of the Southampton campus illegal, is the first victory in favor of those abandoned on SBU’s doorstep, but the future of the campus is still up in the air. That leaves Southampton students who are unhappy with their current situation pinned between accepting an environment and lifestyle they deliberately rejected and starting anew somewhere else. There’s always the chance that Southampton will reopen, but that means pouring time and money into unhappiness.

Liz Monahan, a sophomore marine vertebrate major, wants to return to Southampton just as much as any of her friends, but understands the reality. “If they reopen the campus, it’s not going to be the same because they ripped it out from under us,” she says. Looking ahead, optimism is almost non-existent. “Everyone is going to start to leave either next semester or next year and everything we built is going to be for nothing.”

With two weeks of experience, Holmes, a resident of the town of Stony Brook whose home is a mere 5 minute drive from campus, has been thoroughly weighing her options. “I know for a fact that I’m not coming back next year, “ she says. “So if Southampton doesn’t open after this year, I’m out. There is nothing here for me.”

As evening approaches, more and more people begin to file in and out of Lauterbur’s front entrance. Each and every time someone passes, Holmes, Navarra, and the rest of the group give welcoming greetings and waves, something they say is commonplace back at Southampton, even if you don’t know the person’s name.

So despite being outnumbered by a student body of over 20,000, with so many of them being transient, ghost-like commuters, the Southampton students are infusing the culture they have developed with their environment. It was how they’ve been taught; it is simply a way to learn, live, and grow with balance.

“It’s not a bad place. They’re a lot of really smart kids here…” says Holmes. “But long story short, it is not for us. We have established that we are not happy here.”

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9 Comments


  1. John

    This makes SBS kids look like whiny bitches. I don’t think that was what the author wanted. SBS students are victims of the administration, not victims of main campus students.


  2. julie

    With the devastation and wrongs that have illegally been done to the Southampton kids, they have a right to be so angry. But a reader should not mistake the target of their resentment. Their anger is towards the university president – not the main campus students (except maybe those who are harrassing them). They are not putting the main campus down. They are saying that it is not what they chose and is not the right fit for their academic plans and personal mission. Students take a lot of time in the college search process to find the right school. After all of that, being forced to attend one that they didnt chose and didnt ask to attend is very hard to swallow. And for the record, they did not chose to be housed in Lauterbur. That is where the administration put them.


  3. A

    I did not get to chose to be in any dorm. I was TOLD by the aadministration which dorm I would be in. Like all the other Southampton students, I was ASSIGNED to the new dorm. Believe me, none of us want to be here at all. Speaking of the over-crowded situation here, Southampton’s campus is a state-of-the-art sustainabilities center, so why not just move ALL the environmental programs from the main campus over to Southampton. What sense is it to try to reinvent the wheel by making another sustainability center in the middle of a concrete jungle? Reopen Southampton, maximize its potential by putting all of SBU’s environmental programs there & that will free up loads of space on the main campus. And it will empty out the new dorm for those who want it.


    • fellow sbs

      you could have lived any place else really… I was not forced to live int he new buildings. I was able to choose where I wanted to live… just saying..


  4. julie

    To the southampton students: The college that you love began with just a handful of determined students and committed faculty & staff. Their group was a lot smaller than yours is now, yet they created everything that you found there when you arrived on campus. You know what Southampton was. Now think: If such a small but impassioned group of people who came before you could establish, develop and grow something so wonderful, don’t you think that all of you, larger in number and with that same fierce passion, can pick up the pieces and put it all back together again? You know you can. Youve already started – you just put your education into real-world practice, took a stand, fought for your rights and had victory, not once but twice. The initial ruling and the judgement this week that stopped Stanley. Youre not finished. Nothing worth fighting for comes easy. No more gloom and doom. Liz is right – it will not be the same when it reopens, because all of you together will make it even greater.


  5. Theophilus Hamblin

    After hearing the news of Stony Brook Southampton shutting down I thought it was unconstitutional and flat-out wrong. At the time I was a resident of Greeley College in Roosevelt and could not believe the news that was going around campus. Months earlier we were welcoming a new president to our university, becoming a greener university, completing the construction of new buildings and simply enjoying ourselves. Everything was fine. But as you walked in the Sinc sites, passing students in the Student Activity Center and even in classrooms all you heard was the talk of Southampton being shut down.

    The blame was bound to fall on President Stanley, a man who came in with a gearing mission to bring Stony Brook University to a new level was now the man who was shutting down the Southampton campus. I even showed some resentment towards President Stanley after hearing of the closing. But I soon learned after reading and watching the news that Stony Brook University was facing massive budget cuts, as well as institutions across New York State. I had no idea the mount of money that would be ripped out from under the university. However, the solution to this situation was to shut down a campus and raise tuition. I, as well as my friends who are main campus residents thought this solution was not one that took much thought. What were Stony Brook officials thinking when they decided to shut down an entire campus leaving hundreds of students clueless as to whether they’d be coming back to Stony Brook another year. Who shuts down a campus—an entire campus?

    The first priority should have been to address students from all three campus’s and let them know the situation and then collectively come up with a solution, not simply address a campus after the dealings were done. It’s unconstitutional and was poorly handled. I’m not placing blame on President Stanley, nor I’m I placing blame on New York State. I’m saying communications and the simple act of thinking was lost in this situation that could have ended differently. Now the severity of shutting down Southampton is being felt by all students; the main campus is over crowded. The main campus was crammed with resident students to begin with, and then you add another population of students to the already crowded main campus? I want one of the officials to stand on a line in Kelly Dining Hall and tell me how he/she enjoyed the wait.

    I can understand the need to shut down a campus down if it were preforming poorly, but Southampton was growing, living, becoming a staple campus in the community as well as in the world. It was thriving and students from around the country were interested in the programs specifically geared towards there passion for the environment. To have students passionately interested in keeping our earth in homeostasis should take precedence above all other matters.

    I welcomed the Southampton students to the main campus and even made news friends, but I hear time and time again that the main campus has nothing to offer them. The main campus is simply not Southampton. The majors are different, the direction is different, the teaching is different, and the students are different. The mind set of students on the mains campus is different from those from Southampton. The main campus doesn’t teach sustainability and it doesn’t go into the specifics of environmental matters. It’s like taking away the biology courses at Stony Brook. What on earth would Biology students do then? Take a Theater Art courses? I feel this is the same situation that many Southampton students are facing.

    Now a resident of Yang Hall in Roosevelt Quad, I see the Southampton students and wonder why did they stay? I absolutely love Stony Brook University, but if my major is no longer offered, what good is Stony Brook? Many I spoke to said they are staying for another year to see if things change, if not then they’re leaving. I think this is a terrible look for Stony Brook University but an even terrible look for its officials; having a university shut down its thriving campus is unconstitutional. I have lost a lot of respect for Stony Brook officials. It’s an injustice to Stony Brook University students.


    • Great impassioned post up there by Theophilus Hamblin. You should send that to the SBU Council that will be reviewing the closure of Southampton at a meeting on Oct 4 and hopefully reversing that decision. Email sbcouncil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu. Also send to your USG president (via the USG office) Matt Graham, who is a member of that Council.

      To answer your question, the few Southampton students who stayed with Stony Brook did so because they had no other choice for September, other than stopping their education all together. Not an option for some. Since the announcement of the closure came in April and transfer applications were due in February, they were stuck. It was no coincidence that they were told so late in the year. By making it so the students had no other choice, SBU basically got to hold them & their money hostage.

      That was a calculated move, but only about 300 of the 800 Southampton students stayed. The other 500 are either not going to college at all while waiting for Southampton to reopen, or are at their local community colleges waiting for Southampton to reopen, or able to find any college that would accept their last-minute transfer, or were incoming-freshman and forced to scramble back to the second-choice colleges that they had just turned down.

      Now about the funding cuts, ok, but there were a lot of offers and alternatives to cover that. One for instance, was from the town of Southampton which offered Stanley enough money to fund the college for another two years. Stanley turned it down flat. If a lack of funding was the reason for shutting down a whole college, shouldn’t an offer of the needed funding be a reason to reconsider such a drastic action? Stanley didn’t want the money for the college. He doesn’t want the college, period. He said it is not “academically significant.” And he said that with a straight face to a reporter’s videocamera.

      Why would Stanley ever consider addressing the student bodies to seek solutions. He didn’t even inform the SB Council even though that was required by state law. And that’s the reason why Southampton students sued him & why the NY Supreme Court just ruled that Southampton’s closure is illegal.

      I guess its not hard to see why the blame fell heavily onto Stanley. It was all his doing. The blame was properly placed.

      Stanley didn’t address anybody about what he was going to do to Southampton because he didn’t want any solutions. He wants the property — for his more profitable, special-interest, grad student research programs. Undergrads seem to be very expendable to this guy lately.

      Check out the other Stony Brook Press article and editorial about the Court’s decision:

      “Stony Brook Southampton Shuttered Without Council Oversight” http://www.sbpress.com/2010/09/stony-brook-southampton-shuttered-without-council-oversight/

      “With No Check, There Is No Balance” http://www.sbpress.com/2010/09/with-no-check-there-is-no-balance/


  6. T

    Stanley had said that all the programs were being transferred west and that every Southampton student would be able to graduate with their major. Obviously he lied. Those students whose major was eliminated should be demanding compensation. They are now stuck in the middle of their education with no major. That junior will have to start over & that will cost money. She should get either free tution or a refund on the tuition she just paid for 3 years only to end up with nothing, or she should get free tutition for the rest of her education. If she doesn’t, she should sue the SOB again – this time for damages, pain & suffering.



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